KFOK, Gabreski, Suffolk Co, Westhampton Beach, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. “It has that nice windshield and the fully cantilevered wing,” Chris said. Like the 172, the 182 was introduced in 1956. “With two people you can have full fuel and fill the back end with anything you want, with three people you can have minimal baggage, and with four people you can take a toothbrush and maybe a bottle of helium,” Curt said. Every maneuver begins and ends the same way: SLUF (Strait and Level Unaccelerated Flight – i.e. Designed as a replacement for the 172, it originally featured a 150-hp Lycoming O-320 engine and a fixed-pitch prop. The correct answer would be RV10..... 4 adults, no folding gear to not go down when my grand-kids are in the plane, 165kts easy (to be used to get my grand-kids to me).... Well, unfortunately, my wonderful wife has not had the pleasure of traveling in this miraculous RV-10. “Systematically they’re the same airplane,” Curt said. Fuel burn is about 10 gph and Gateway Flying Club charges just $55 an hour, Tach time dry. It offered the same ease of handling, comfort and simplicity of its little brother, the 172, but it also had more speed and better high-altitude performance. Maintenance: 4 It really depends on your flying experience. No excuses needed. The early 182's were a nosewheel version of the 180, but after they changed the 182 to the modern config, it got a wider cabin, different trim and electric flaps so the differences grew over time. The main difference being the constant speed prop and the stabilator. There are many different models of Cessna 182s and each has slight differences, pros, and cons. Plus, there's no comparison when adding power. “The form is a little bit different, but it’s a big brother to the 172.” Although Gateway primarily uses the 172 for students and pilots with low time, if the 172 is not available, the club will use the Cardinal for training. Curt said the Cardinal is similar to a Piper Arrow in terms of loading. Operating Cost (4 stars) What happened? Maintenance (4 stars) Personally I’ve flown to the West Coast over the Rockies – the low VFR route through Salt Lake, Reno, to the Bay area,” Chris said. The Cirrus has the smallest cabin and a bit tight for luggage. Except for mostly cosmetic changes, there's little or no practical difference so we're going to consider them interchangeable. With a wide, spacious cabin, enormous doors, and excellent visibility, the Cessna Cardinal is well loved by its owners. The one and only BOSS 182!!!! Home > Aircraft Specs > Manufacturers > Cessna Aircraft > 177 B Cardinal (1975-'78 specifications) Performance Information. I had a 177 (Cardinal) RG for a while and it served well. The 177 Cardinal was developed to replace the 172 Skyhawk. Cessna 182, Piper Dakota, older Mooney. It offered the same ease of handling, comfort and simplicity of its little brother, the 172, but it also had more speed and better high-altitude performance. Cessna 172 vs 182 price point. Cessna continued to use the 235hp Lycomings until 1985, the year before all Cessna 182 production was terminated for ten years (Cessna also offered a fixed gear turbo'd model; the T-182R II Skylane, from 1981 to 1985, fitted with the RG's Lycoming engine). One advantage is the Cardinal has the widest cabin of any of the smaller single-engine Cessnas. Insurability: 3 Plus, there's no comparison when adding power. A 182 is a perfect plane. 177 RG Cardinal: CESSNA AIRCRAFT CORPORATION: Models 1972 through 1978. It falls in the middle,” Chris said. So, what went wrong? Cessna introduced the 175 hp, four-seat Cessna 175 in 1958; with the goal of filling the gap between the 172’s price and the 182’s performance. You might also consider an R172K Hawk XP (195 hp upgradable to 210 hp). Preferably earlier. The Cessna 177/180 Conversion is also available. “Until you get to the Cessna 210, you don’t get a wider cabin,” Curt said. Please login below for an enhanced experience. Cessna offered a number of retractable models, including the 177RG. Cessna Aircraft Compared - The Cessna 172 Vs The Cessna 182. The laminar wing on the cardinal makes for a smaller climb rate though. The A36 will get better mileage than the 182, and will haul more than both. The Cessna Cardinal debuted in 1968 and was produced for 10 years. The Cessna 177, also known as the Cessna Cardinal, was introduced in 1967 and was labeled the "Airplane of the '70s" due to its racy, sloped windshield, strutless wings, and futuristic, low to the ground design. Today, both the 177 and 177RG are considered desirable aircraft to own. Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. Indeed, Cessna was so impressed with its handiwork, they labeled the model 177 Cardinal the “Airplane of the ‘70s” when it was introduced in the late ‘60s. Fun Factor: 3 TURBO R182RG SKYLANE. Category. Both are very good airplanes both have their good and bad points. Except for mostly cosmetic changes, there's little or no practical difference so we're going to consider them interchangeable. Cessna introduced the 175 hp, four-seat Cessna 175 in 1958; with the goal of filling the gap between the 172’s price and the 182’s performance. You’d call it a new Cessna 182. Page 1 of 39 Gateway uses the Cardinal for pilots working on their IFR rating. “It’s a good club airplane,” said Curt Stoltz, Board Member-at-Large for the Anoka, Minnesota-based Gateway Flying Club. CESSNA (4) Model - Applied. 140 (1) 150 (3) 152 (2 ... 1980 is a good year on 182 Turbo RG's because they have the better front cowl design, re-located oil cooler ... See More Details. ). Cessna designed the 177 as the 172's replacement.. didn't work out exactly as they expected. Although the design is more than four decades old, the Cessna 177 Cardinal with its racy sloped windshield, wide doors and strutless wings looks more modern than the newest Skyhawks coming out of Cessna's Independence, Kansas, plant. The 177 is roomier, has more speed, more payload, and like you say is more aerodynamic, it just has a good clean look. Not a member? A 182RG is a handsome aeroplane on the ground. An original 1968 model fixed pitch 150 hp Cessna 177 Cardinal. Early Cessna 182's were narrower than the later models, and the early 182's had the "jack screw" trim and manual flaps. “It’s just a nicer airplane for flying around in. Development. It was to be called the Cessna 172J. But after Cessna’s marketing department objected to doing away with the 172, it became an addition to the product lineup. The Cessna Pilots Association (www.cessna.org and 805-922-2580) is the biggest overall Cessna group and publishes useful technical info, much of it of interest to other single-engine Cessna owners. I had a 177 (Cardinal) RG for a while and it served well. Cessna produced over 9,000 210’s from the late 1950’s up until 1986, and the first models were basically a 182 with retractable gear and a slightly larger engine (260hp vs. 230). “It’s economical. So, what went wrong? The Cessna 182 was the best option. Cessna offered a number of retractable models, including the 177RG. Cessna 182 Series. Cessna 172 Club Forum » Forums » THE PILOT LOUNGE » Flying & C172 Club General Discussion » 172 Vs 182 Register User Forum List Calendar Active Topics FAQ Chris said it handles a little different and its best to carry about 100 rpm over idle on landing. It’s bigger, faster and more complex than the 172, but not quite as big or fast as the 182. The decision seemed obvious. The 177 is roomier, has more speed, more payload, and like you say is more aerodynamic, it just has a good clean look. Having a constant speed prop makes the annual more expensive than the 172, but the advantage over a 182 is that it has a smaller engine with a longer TBO. A retractable gear version debuted in 1971. When Gateway members aren’t using the Cardinal for instrument training, the plane is used quite extensively for cross-country travel. The Cessna 177 was designed in the mid-1960s when the engineers at Cessna were asked to create a "futuristic 1970s successor to the Cessna 172".The resulting aircraft featured newer technology such as a cantilever wing lacking the lift struts of previous models, and a new laminar flow airfoil. We meet Kent and his Cessna 177rg Cardinal and take it for a flight. The correct answer would be RV10..... 4 adults, no folding gear to not go down when my grand-kids are in the plane, 165kts easy (to be used to get my grand-kids to me).... and no, you're not getting mine! I’ve owned a bunch of Beech (currently a B58), several Piper, Cessna and others, both single and multiengine. A 182RG is a handsome aeroplane on the ground. Like the 172, the 182 was introduced in 1956. Both are 4 seat, high wing planes with struts bracing each wing. Skyhawk is definitely more forgiving, easier to handle and land, needs shorter runway. Quick Search. Cessna 182 Cessna 185 St-Just Cyclone St-Just Super-Cyclone: The Cessna 180 is a four- or six-seat, fixed conventional gear general aviation airplane which was produced between 1953 and 1981. The 175 garnered positive initial reviews. “In terms of showing it off, it is a sleek airplane,” Curt said. Though the design is no longer in production, many of these aircraft are still in use as personal aircraft and in utility roles such as bush flying. CESSNA. You might say the Cessna 177 Cardinal is the Goldilocks of the Cessna family. We had two bigger than FAA standard people and half tanks on our long-range (80 gal/75 useable) tanks. To the uninitiated, the Cessna 172 and Cessna 182 are indistinguishable from each other. Yet, sadly, the Cardinal is a poster child for why innovation and audacity in general aviation development has often met dismal results in the market. The Cardinal is a good airplane for multiple missions. Designed in the mid-1960s the 177 featured newer technology such as a cantilever wing with a laminar flow airfoil. Yet, sadly, the Cardinal is a poster child for why innovation and audacity in general aviation development has often met dismal results in the market. It was sleeker, faster, and more modern than the 172, and would prove to deliver 182 … The 182 has the capacity for one crew member and three passengers and also includes an option of adding two child seats which can be installed in the baggage area. Or at least it used to be a regular multiple time summer occurrence when more people were flying in the early 90s. Cessna 172 Club Forum » Forums » THE PILOT LOUNGE » Flying & C172 Club General Discussion » 172 Vs 182 Register User Forum List Calendar Active Topics FAQ View All Selected Options. It was to be called the Cessna 172J. 182 is for solid climb + more usable weight. Early Cessna 182's were narrower than the later models, and the early 182's had the "jack screw" trim and manual flaps. However, the Cardinal was developed to replace the 172, so the two planes are very similar. So many engineering and aesthetic design changes were made throughout the 210’s history that they are almost completely different airplanes on paper and inside. Remember back to your Dry Adiabatic lapse rate and realize also that 70F might be "hot" when normal atmospheric conditions mean that you should subtract 3F per 1000' of altitude to compare apples to apples. It gets stiffer as you speed up, thus it's light in the pattern but stable at cruise. The aircraft is the only high-wing single-engined Cessna to have both fixed landing gear and a cantilever wing without strut bracing since the Cessna 190 and 195. Although it wasn’t produced in the numbers that that 172 and 182 were, parts are available. You might say the Cessna 177 Cardinal is the Goldilocks of the Cessna family. The 36 cruises at 160-175 knots where the 182 does 135-145 knots and while that difference doesn’t seem like … The aircraft itself, like other Cessnas, has a proven track record and is an airplane that insurance companies are usually happy to cover. Originally designed as a replacement to the 172, the Cardinal ended up becoming an option that falls squarely between Cessna’s two most popular single-engine aircraft. So many engineering and aesthetic design changes were made throughout the 210’s history that they are almost completely different airplanes on paper and inside. It has a little bit better visibility because it doesn’t have a strut and you are out in front of the wing a little bit further.”. Search. The Cessna Cardinal is big, fast and fun to fly. The empty weight is 1,970 lb (894 kg) and the gross weight is 3,110 lb (1,411 kg). It can serve as an instrument trainer or in a pinch for primary training. But after Cessna’s marketing department objected to doing away with the 172, it became an addition to the product lineup. Insurability (4 stars) It is the sole production high-wing single-engined Cessna that came after the 190 and 195 series to be equipped with fixed landing gear and a cantilever wing. What really makes the difference in my views is the greater payload ability of the 182 compared to the 172. Get the latest news on coronavirus impacts on general aviation, including what AOPA is doing to protect GA, event cancellations, advice for pilots to protect themselves, and more. Browse a wide selection of new and used Aircraft near you at Controller.com. Keep in mind, if your club chooses to operate a Cardinal RG, the annual will be more expensive because of the required gear swing. Originally Cessna’s Cardinal designers were given full authority to produce a modernized four-place design that would replace the Cessna 172. The increased premium will be the result of your low time and the fact that the aircraft is a tail wheel aircraft. It performs well for the cost and I don’t know if I want to say it’s an elegant airplane but it sure is a good looking airplane.” Curt and Club President Chris Baye tell us about their experience operating the sleek Cessna that often gets overlooked. The one metric that the Cessna 172 Skyhawk has the 182 beat in is price point. Even then most Mountain CFIs won't launch West out of Denver in a Skyhawk after about 9 AM in the summer. It’s bigger, faster and more complex than the 172, but not quite as big or fast as the 182. Gateway pays about $3,500 a year for insurance, which is slightly more than what they pay for their 172 and slightly less than the insurance costs for their 182. Manufacturer - Applied. Known as the futuristic successor to the Cessna 172, the Cardinal features modern technologies than its predecessor, incorporating a cantilever wing and a new laminar flow airfoil. I'd take a cardinal over a 182 personally, unless your family loves the McDonalds, then 182 might be mandatory. Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by daviegrygg, May 12, 2011. But I can get a 182 far, far better trimmed than a 172, and the engine behavior is a big part of it. In fact due to its heigher weight the 182 handles ‘nicer’ and also the addtional engine power makes it a better experience and a more versatile plane. You are not logged in. We meet Deanna and fly in a Cessna 182 Skylane.Really love this channel and want to help it continue? ©2020 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, Aircraft Spotlight: The Cessna Cardinal Might be the Perfect Fit for Your Club. I've found the Cardinal, both RG and 'down and welded' gear, to be very nice flying aircraft, much lighter and better harmony on the controls that any other Cessna (at least the 152, 172, 175, 182 or 210 :-) ). The 175 garnered positive initial reviews. At Leadville last summer my Skylane's engine was putting out about 65% of rated HP for takeoff and we felt it. It is the sole production high-wing single-engined Cessna that came after the 190 and 195 series to be equipped with fixed landing gear and a cantilever wing. Although the design is more than four decades old, the Cessna 177 Cardinal with its racy sloped windshield, wide doors and strutless wings looks more modern than the newest Skyhawks coming out of Cessna's Independence, Kansas, plant. The Cessna 177, also known as the Cessna Cardinal, was introduced in 1967 and was labeled the "Airplane of the '70s" due to its racy, sloped windshield, strutless wings, and futuristic, low to the ground design. It’s a capable cross county machine and economical to insure and operate. Quick Search. I've found the Cardinal, both RG and 'down and welded' gear, to be very nice flying aircraft, much lighter and better harmony on the controls that any other Cessna (at least the 152, 172, 175, 182 or 210 :-) ). An original 1968 model fixed pitch 150 hp Cessna 177 Cardinal. The Aircraft Spotlight feature looks at an airplane type and evaluates it across six areas of particular interest to flying clubs and their members: Operating Cost, Maintenance, Insurability, Training, Cross-Country, and Fun Factor. This article originally ran in September 2015 and has been updated with current figures. Development. The Cessna 182 Skylane is an American four-seat, single-engined light airplane, built by Cessna of Wichita, Kansas. However, it’s bigger, faster and can carry more. The Cessna 182 Skylane is a light aircraft with a single engine and four seats. That can be easily realized and it’s got a very comfortable 120 to 125 knot cruise,” Chris said. Serial numbers 177RG0213 through 177RG1366 172M from the factory I believe should have a 160 HP O-320. Four flat-landers in a Skyhawk is quite often the subject of SAR activity and fatalities west of DEN. Overall: 4. Originally designed as a replacement to the 172, the Cardinal ended up becoming an option that falls squarely between Cessna’s two most popular single-engine aircraft. According to the pilot operating handbook, the useful load is 940 pounds. It has a Garmin 430 and an autopilot. “One of the things we like about it in a club environment is the fuel burn comes in at about 10 gph. Though the design is no longer in production, many of these aircraft are still in use as personal aircraft and in utility roles such as bush flying. The 182 is much slower, and not much less if any to operate on a per mile basis. “It sure looks like it’s flying before it’s flying.”, Chris added, “It does feel more like a sports car and it handles a bit like a sports car.” One of the things he finds more fun about the Cardinal is the added technical challenge of using the constant speed prop and having cowl flaps. Already a member? – Equipped with LYCOMING IO-580 ENGINE CONVERSION BY WIPAIRE! Cessna's 182 Skylane First of all, the 182 is a different airplane than the Skylane: the Skylane is a dressed up version of the basic bird. The 177 Cardinal was developed to replace the 172 Skyhawk. Vortex generators have revolutionized the engine-out safety margins of twin-engine airplanes, and thousands of aircraft have been retrofitted with them over the last decade. The purchase price for a fixed-gear Cardinal runs anywhere from $35,000 to $60,000, while a retractable-gear 177 is about $50,000 to $75,000. The Cessna 182 is just a tier higher than the Cessna 172 that I had been training in, and so very similar. You might say the Cessna 177 Cardinal is the Goldilocks of the Cessna family. I had a scary density altitude moment today in my 1973 Cessna 172M and am parsing and searching and thinking about an upgrade. The early 182's were a nosewheel version of the 180, but after they changed the 182 to the modern config, it got a wider cabin, different trim and electric flaps so the differences grew over time. A C-182 would be significantly better in the heavy-high-hot department. Cross-Country Travel (4 stars) The only W&B scare (aft CG) I had was in a Cardinal with four adults and full fuel. “I heard it’s a wonderful photo platform.”, “If I’m going to take someone flying for the first time, maybe take a tour of the city, it’s going to be my plane of choice,” Chris said. The Cessna Cardinal is big, fast and fun to fly. It also has big, wide doors and sits lower than either the 172 or 182, making it more accessible, particular for people who have mobility issues, Chris said. CESSNA (4) Model - Applied. Policy costs and terms will vary depending on the specifics of the club, but using AOPA Insurance’s connections with more than a dozen A-rated underwriting companies and deep knowledge and passion for aviation, finding a policy that covers a club for a Cardinal, or other single engine-land land aircraft, should be clear skies. In 1969, the engine was upgraded to a 180-hp Lycoming O-360, and in 1970 minor improvements included a constant-speed propeller and a new airfoil. The Cessna Cardinal is a single-engine, high-wing aircraft deliberately designed through the mid-1960s to be the successor to the venerable 172. Search. They also want to burn down fuel load and stay light. Yet only six years later, the model was discontinued. "Maintenance-wise, it’s a little more expensive than the 172, but not quite as much as a 182. Aircraft performance stats and information for the Cessna 182 A,B,C,D aircraft. Designed in the mid-1960s the 177 featured newer technology such as a cantilever wing with a laminar flow airfoil. DA sneaks up on everyone who doesn't fly at high DA airports and has to do the calculations for every takeoff. Training: 4 “The Cardinal has gone all over the country. Cessna 182 Cessna 185 St-Just Cyclone St-Just Super-Cyclone: The Cessna 180 is a four- or six-seat, fixed conventional gear general aviation airplane which was produced between 1953 and 1981. The Cessna 177 was designed in the mid-1960s when the engineers at Cessna were asked to create a "futuristic 1970s successor to the Cessna 172".The resulting aircraft featured newer technology such as a cantilever wing lacking the lift struts of previous models, and a new laminar flow airfoil. It has the option of adding two child seats, installed in the baggage area. The "M" has a 0-320-E2D = 150 horse power. But I can get a 182 far, far better trimmed than a 172, and the engine behavior is a big part of it. The original 150 horsepower 1968 Cessna 177 is considered under-powered by many people (and underwriters) If you are willing to pay about 25 percent more in insurance premium go for the Cessna 170. Cessna 182, Piper Dakota, older Mooney. Cessna produced over 9,000 210’s from the late 1950’s up until 1986, and the first models were basically a 182 with retractable gear and a slightly larger engine (260hp vs. 230). Category. ...It is easy to go wrong with a Cardinal. Back in the 1970s Cessna was building an airplane for every conceivable niche and had RG versions of the 172, 177 and 182. Yet only six years later, the model was discontinued. “The Cardinal was one of the reasons why I joined the club. It’s bigger, faster and more complex than the 172, but not quite as big or fast as the 182. View All Selected Options. You’d call it a new Cessna 182. Once I flew it, I realized it’s truly a gem.”. Cessna continued to use the 235hp Lycomings until 1985, the year before all Cessna 182 production was terminated for ten years (Cessna also offered a fixed gear turbo'd model; the T-182R II Skylane, from 1981 to 1985, fitted with the RG's Lycoming engine). The 177, with its 150 hp (112 kW) powerplant, was considered "underpowered", even though it had more power than the 145 hp (108 kW) Cessna 172. Training (4 stars) CESSNA. Just over 60 … Cessna 177 B Cardinal (1975-'78 specifications) - Performance Data. Both are very good airplanes both have their good and bad points. The Cardinal cruises at about 120 to 125 knots and holds 60 gallons of fuel. “The airplane has lots of light and space.”, Fun Factor (3 stars) You are not logged in. For the same year make of a 2006 Cessna 182T Skylane you’ll be looking at … Cardinal is a solid cruiser with a 172 engine w/o upgrade, w/ upgrade you can get in like 180 hp and go even faster. “It was a 30-hour trip and I averaged 9.3 gph.” And Curt has taken the plane from Minnesota to Sun ‘n’ Fun in Lakeland, Florida. How high were you and how hot was it outside? ; cruise power, trimmed, on altitude and heading, and Even if your club chooses to get a retractable gear Cardinal, be it in a flying club or personal ownership, coverage is rarely a problem. Pilawt. If you’re looking to purchase a used 2006 Cessna 172 Skyhawk SP you will be investing around $199,500. The 177, with its 150 hp (112 kW) powerplant, was considered "underpowered", even though it had more power than the 145 hp (108 kW) Cessna 172. Known as the futuristic successor to the Cessna 172, the Cardinal features modern technologies than its predecessor, incorporating a cantilever wing and a new laminar flow airfoil. Originally designed as a replacement to the 172, the Cardinal ended up becoming an option that falls squarely between Cessna’s two most popular single-engine aircraft. The glare shield also is lower than in a 182 so you’re not staring at a wall of instruments. Cross Country: 3 We meet Deanna and fly in a Cessna 182 Skylane.Really love this channel and want to help it continue? Overall (4 stars) With a wide, spacious cabin, enormous doors, and excellent visibility, the Cessna Cardinal is well loved by its owners. I would like to be able to carry 4 adults with luggage. Operating Cost: 4 Today, both the 177 and 177RG are considered desirable aircraft to own. The Cardinal Rule: Cessna's Airplane Of The Future. We meet Kent and his Cessna 177rg Cardinal and take it for a flight. But for pilots, they are substantially different aircraft. The Cessna 177/180 Conversion is also available. They're very nice aircraft, kind of slotted in between the 172 and 182 as the model number implies: Better cruise speed than the 172 (and Mooney-like fuel economy), but not quite the near-limitless hauling capacity of the 182. Originally Cessna’s Cardinal designers were given full authority to produce a modernized four-place design that would replace the Cessna 172. The aircraft is the only high-wing single-engined Cessna to have both fixed landing gear and a cantilever wing without strut bracing since the Cessna 190 and 195. 4 BACK TO BASICS 1. The Cessna 182 What if you took the world’s most popular single-engine airplane and made it even better? “It demands a little more of the pilot and I think that’s part of it.”, Without a wing strut, and with the front seats positioned ahead of the leading edge of the wing, visibility in a Cardinal is better than the 172 and 182. It gets stiffer as you speed up, thus it's light in the pattern but stable at cruise. A 180-hp C-177 would be a little better load-lifter than your 172, but probably not enough to justify the cost and hassle of selling one airplane and buying another. Manufacturer - Applied. 140 (1) 150 (3) 152 (2 ... 1980 is a good year on 182 Turbo RG's because they have the better front cowl design, re-located oil cooler ... See More Details. Just over 60 … The sleeker design and lower profile make it feel more like a sports car than other Cessnas, while the cantilevered wing and lower glare shield provide excellent visibility, enhancing the flying experience. Top models include CARAVAN 208B GRAND, CITATION II, 414A, 340A, 421C, and CITATION ISP. Cessna's 182 Skylane First of all, the 182 is a different airplane than the Skylane: the Skylane is a dressed up version of the basic bird. TURBO R182RG SKYLANE. The 182 is simpler and a good step-up from the ubiquitous 172 so it is used over somewhat shorter distances and more VFR than IFR flying. 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